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Post by Paul Daley on Mar 29, 2005 13:26:26 GMT -5
I feel the wreck should now be left alone, although I feel this sadly will not be the case.
Do you think 'treasures' should keep being brought up?
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Post by furbaby on Mar 29, 2005 13:49:53 GMT -5
I'll have to disagree with you there. Maybe it's my own personal fascination with these artifacts, and I like to see them, but I do believe they should continue to "rescue" these things from the deep. Why not? It's all going to disintegrate anyway...yes, some may argue it's "grave robbing", but put yourself in the position of those people that drowned. Pretend it's your body down there, would it really bother you to have someone come along and take your stuff? Now, this goes deeper into the fact of "are the souls of people really still stuck there (if you beleive that people have souls that live on) which is another matter entirely". I say lets not waste this peice of history and let it disapear.
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Post by Paul Daley on Mar 29, 2005 14:07:08 GMT -5
No, what I mean is like the way RMS Titanic inc ripped the crows nest away to get the bell.
This is just blatant disregard for the souls and tranquility of the wreck. With absolutely no emotions.
I feel bringing things up for presentation and restoration are an exception. But bringing things up to make profit on, I do not agree with.
As long as these artefacts are displayed in a museum or returned to the owners families, then I am all for it.
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Post by furbaby on Mar 29, 2005 18:30:42 GMT -5
Ok, in that sense I agree with you. I don't beleive in ripping it apart for profit. However, for preservation and display, yes that's different. And of course the debris feild should all be picked up and see what else can be salvaged.
I got the opportunity to see alot of the salvaged artifacts that they toured with. It was such an emotional day for me, to go from display to display and see these things and be so close to them. From something as simple as a cup and saucer, to someones toothbrush...it was very overwhelming and I feel so privlidged to have been able to see that stuff.
Without them salvaging stuff like that, I would never have been able to come so close to the Titanic...and I'm so glad I did.
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Post by Paul Daley on Mar 30, 2005 2:20:51 GMT -5
I feel the most emotion when I see things like the lifejacket and letters in the maritime museum in Liverpool.
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Post by embb on Apr 10, 2005 8:35:47 GMT -5
I'll have to disagree with you there. Maybe it's my own personal fascination with these artifacts, and I like to see them, but I do believe they should continue to "rescue" these things from the deep. Why not? It's all going to disintegrate anyway...yes, some may argue it's "grave robbing", but put yourself in the position of those people that drowned. Pretend it's your body down there, would it really bother you to have someone come along and take your stuff? Now, this goes deeper into the fact of "are the souls of people really still stuck there (if you beleive that people have souls that live on) which is another matter entirely". I say lets not waste this peice of history and let it disapear. I agree wholeheartedly, these treasures should be brought up just for preservation purposes if nowt else, they're no good rotting away down there, It is a grave, I agree but the artifacts are not part of that - I don't think so anyway, I also have a fascination with artifacts and tbh they should be kept up here safe and not left rotting where they do no good to anyone  |
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Post by Xtapolapocet on Apr 29, 2005 13:05:03 GMT -5
No, what I mean is like the way RMS Titanic inc ripped the crows nest away to get the bell. This is just blatant disregard for the souls and tranquility of the wreck. With absolutely no emotions... What R.M.S. Titanic, Inc. has done is tantamount to grave robbing if you ask me. The organization is in it purely for profit, nothing more. |
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Post by Paul Daley on Apr 29, 2005 15:30:23 GMT -5
Well said!!  |
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Post by Brittanic on Apr 29, 2005 15:39:08 GMT -5
I support getting the artifacts as long as it's for museums and not for profit!
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Post by Xtapolapocet on May 2, 2005 9:08:18 GMT -5
I support getting the artifacts as long as it's for museums and not for profit! I understand your stance on the matter. However, R.M.S. Titanic, Inc. is not donating these items to a museum; they are running a traveling road show and charging high admission prices. Think Barnum & Bailey, anyone? |
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Post by Brittanic on May 2, 2005 17:32:26 GMT -5
I despise that company so some Titanic lovers they are!
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Post by Paul Daley on May 3, 2005 2:51:29 GMT -5
HERE is their site. Make up your own minds.
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Post by Brittanic on May 3, 2005 19:55:51 GMT -5
I don't know
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Post by michaelkv on Jun 23, 2005 17:31:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure if these artifacts should be "rescued" or not you could argue it, yes they should be brought up so many people who would like to see them could, but they would be destroyed over time, No they should stay down there because they are historical artifacts, if they're moved they might disintagrate, they will disintagrate down there anyway but that is where they belong. Don't you think?
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Post by Xtapolapocet on Jun 28, 2005 12:25:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure if these artifacts should be "rescued" or not you could argue it, yes they should be brought up so many people who would like to see them could, but they would be destroyed over time, No they should stay down there because they are historical artifacts, if they're moved they might disintagrate, they will disintagrate down there anyway but that is where they belong. Don't you think? Michaelkv, Firstly, I would like to welcome you to the Titanic forum. We're always pleased to acquire new members who are also fellow Titanic enthusiasts. Regarding your statement concerning the Titanic artifacts and their place on the ocean floor or in a museum. The issue is a long held moral and ethical debate that will rage on until after the sea has once again claimed the Titanic. As stated previously in this thread, I am of the opinion that taking artifacts from her is in essence, grave robbing. However, I do understand that it is important to preserve something so important. With that said, I realize that many participants in this forum and outside feel it is critical to hold onto what ever we can from the Titanic. I suppose, for many, it is a way of keeping the Titanic alive and in our reality as opposed to a story in a book and passed down by elders. Once again, I will reiterate that I am not a supporter of grave robbing above or below the sea shore. I do, however, thank you for your participation in this discussion. I look forward to your reply and/or future posts in this forum. Best regards, Xtapolapocet |
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