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Post by Paul Daley on Mar 31, 2005 14:00:10 GMT -5
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Post by furbaby on Mar 31, 2005 18:04:32 GMT -5
I love all those pics, the first propellor pic was always one of my favourites...just shows her immense size so well. Man she's huge!
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Post by Brittanic on Apr 16, 2005 19:50:51 GMT -5
those are great pictures where do you find all of these?
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Post by Paul Daley on Apr 17, 2005 0:51:44 GMT -5
some are from my books, but mainly google or yahoo.
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Post by Brittanic on Apr 17, 2005 8:50:28 GMT -5
Oh.I have like this huge folder on my computer with nothing but Titanic and Titanic related stuff in it.
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Post by LadyAstor on Apr 23, 2005 23:52:11 GMT -5
I have a book showing how they converted the Queen Mary they filled her pipes with concrete and took off so much machienry she was almost too light.
that would be creepy with Titanic.
what other ships of the line have not been found?
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Post by Brittanic on Apr 24, 2005 13:59:07 GMT -5
The Nomadic.The Queen Mary is a WHite Star Ship?
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Post by LadyAstor on Apr 24, 2005 21:15:24 GMT -5
was she white star or Cunard? I think Cunard.
Have you ver been to the Queen Mary? In Long Beach. California?
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Post by Paul Daley on Apr 25, 2005 2:19:12 GMT -5
The Queen Mary was a Cunard ship. As for Nomadic, SS NOMADIC was built by Harland and Wolff, Belfast (yard number 422). She was launched on April 25, 1911 and delivered to White Star Line on May 27. She attended the departure of the OLYMPIC for Liverpool on May 31, 1911. That same day the SS TITANIC was launched. NOMADIC and her sister TRAFFIC were built to ferry passenegrs and freight to and from the White Star Liners calling at Cherbourg. TRAFFIC would ferry the third class passengers and mail, while NOMADIC with her plush interior brought first and second class to TITANIC and OLYMPIC. NOMADIC's famous passengers included Colonel John Jacob Astor and his wife Madeline, Margaret "Unsinkable Molly" Brown, and Benjamin Guggenheim. NOMADIC had a gross tonnage of 1,273, and is 221 feet long. In 1927, White Star sold NOMADIC to Compagnie Cherbourgeoise de Transbordment with an agreement to continue ferrying White's Stars passengers. In 1934, NOMADIC was again sold and renamed INGENIEUR MINARD for Cherbourgeoise de Remorquage et de Sauvetage. She continued tender service at Cherbourg until the occupation of Cherbourg, when she was hurriedly dispatched to England in 1940. During the War she was used as a troopship to evecuate British soldiers from Le Havre and as a patrol vessel and minelayer. She return to Cherbourg in 1945 (TRAFFIC her sister had been sunk in the War. After the war, INGENIEUR MINARD continued to service liners such as the QUEEN MARY and QUEEN ELIZABETH until 1968 when she sold to be broken up. However, instead she was bought by Yvon Vincent converted into a restaurant and conference centre opened in 1974 and moored near at Quai DeBillythe Eiffel Tower, on the River Seine in Paris and given her former name NOMADIC. In 2000 she was shuttered and in disprepair. Philippe Debaunoy, Captain Erik D. Wood and others became involved in a efforts to bring her to Belfast. Mr. Michael McGimpsey, Minister of Culture, Arts and Leisure for Northern Ireland indicated that he would allow money for two Harland and Wolff inspectors to survey the NOMADIC. All the non-original superstructure was removed and on April 1, 2003 NOMADIC departed Paris and was moved downstream to Le Havre, arriving April 4. The French Ministry of Culture put a temporary preservation notice on the ship. NOMADIC remains moored at the Quai du Bresil at Le Havre. Belfast Industrial Heritage Ltd - a non profit organization preserving the Industrial Heritage of Queen's Island (where many famous transatlantic liners were built) expressed interested by the return of the Nomadic to Belfast. Kathleen Neill of BIH wrote: "BIH's plan for the Nomadic is to her restored by Harland & Wolff Technical Services Ltd. She will be 100% restored to her 1911 aspect (as she was when serving the Titanic); at a later date she may be converted to the later design with the enclosed bridge. They hope she will be moored in the Hamilton Dock where she was fitted out - near slipways #1 and #2; the Belfast Harbour Commissioners have stated they would make mooring facilities available for her. Nomadic would be used as an exhibition centre telling the story of shipbuilding in Belfast; also as a conference venue, for corporate events and for special meetings (Titanic made in Belfast celebrations). She could also move again and visit major European Harbours as an Ambassador of Northern Ireland Tourism Board.
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Post by Brittanic on May 15, 2005 16:31:07 GMT -5
I thought there was one ship that sailed away and was never heard from again?
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Post by Searchquest on May 15, 2005 18:07:34 GMT -5
Ok at the risk of being unpopular I'm going to take issue (nicely of course lol) with two of the photo's that are meant to be Titanic. They are the first one 'During outfitting' and the sixth one 'Titanic's launch'. If you get these two up at the same time and also number number nine 'In Belfast' the differences can be clearly seen. The window configuration on 'C' deck is different, indeed on the 'Belfast' picture you can see that the open section near the poop deck end is much less than the other two pictures which I believe are both of the Olympic. If my memory is correct these differences are due to two things; firstly the inclusion of cabins on Titanic where on the Olympic there was another promenade deck (port and starboard) and secondly the second class promenade deck commom to both ships was given greater weather protection on the Titanic. If I'm wrong I promise to stand in the naughty corner ;D As for the picture and information on Nomadic, thank you for that Paul, have you any more pics? I'd love to see them. SQ.
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Post by Paul Daley on May 16, 2005 16:42:46 GMT -5
Ok at the risk of being unpopular I'm going to take issue (nicely of course lol) with two of the photo's that are meant to be Titanic. They are the first one 'During outfitting' and the sixth one 'Titanic's launch'. If you get these two up at the same time and also number number nine 'In Belfast' the differences can be clearly seen. The window configuration on 'C' deck is different, indeed on the 'Belfast' picture you can see that the open section near the poop deck end is much less than the other two pictures which I believe are both of the Olympic. If my memory is correct these differences are due to two things; firstly the inclusion of cabins on Titanic where on the Olympic there was another promenade deck (port and starboard) and secondly the second class promenade deck commom to both ships was given greater weather protection on the Titanic. If I'm wrong I promise to stand in the naughty corner ;D As for the picture and information on Nomadic, thank you for that Paul, have you any more pics? I'd love to see them. SQ. You are possibly right, many pictures of the time were often used for publicity purposes. Most were supposed to be Titanic, but were often Olympic. This was very common at the time and are still often confused today. I do have some more Nomadic pictures somewhere. I will try to post then when I get my new scanner.
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Post by tomdyer on May 18, 2005 2:21:19 GMT -5
was she white star or Cunard? I think Cunard. Have you ver been to the Queen Mary? In Long Beach. California? When she entered service she was a member of Cunard White Star's Cunard fleet and flew both the Cunard and White Star Line flag. In 1949 the last White Star shares were bought up and the White Star line part of Cunard White Star was removed. The White Star liner Naronic left Liverpool in 1893 and has never been seen again. Tom
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Post by Brittanic on May 18, 2005 16:12:30 GMT -5
Oh yeah!That was it!I had forgotten what it was thanks!
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Post by tomdyer on May 19, 2005 13:11:30 GMT -5
Your welcome, Brittanic.
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